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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: Lost Lines-Liverpool and Mersey Reply with quote

In the 12th volume in the highly successful "Lost Lines" series, Nigel Welbourn has returned to Liverpool after a gap of many years to examine what remains in the region from the many closed lines that once served the city and its docks.

An interesting book for Tom I think. Price £9.89 free postage.
http://www.whsmith.co.uk/CatalogA...d+the+Mersey+-9780711031906.html#
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Pol, ordered!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's ok Tom. Now can you tell me exactly what I was searching for when I found that book by accident?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erm...  no. But I bet it had naff all to do with Liverpool, Overhead OR Railway!!  
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forgot to say that the book arrived yesterday and it's terrific.  I would not have been tempted to buy it for the cover price (£14.99) but at just under £10 including postage, it's well worth it.

I'm tempted to list the number of 'railway firsts' that Liverpool has to it's name but I'll only bore you....  
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell us Id Love to Hear what the North has done well!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liverpool is in the deep south. Takes days to get there from where I am.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You asked for it...

"In 1803 the Liverpool and Manchester Railway became the first main line in the world, the first to be operated entirely by steam engines, the first to have double track, the first to run to a timetable and the first to operate with it's own stock. In short, the first modern railway."

And widely recognised as the last long-distance scheduled steam hauled train run by BR came into Liverpool Exchange on Sunday 3 August 1968.

Start and finish, eh?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who designed it and where were all the engines from?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So why didn't you build one yourselves then?   Fnnr, fnnr...  


Also, (not designed or built by a Geordie)
The first underwater electric railway 1903, first elevated electric railway 1893, world's first station escalator and first automatic signalling.

I could go on but.....
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We Did its called the S&DR... Far better
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And earlier... and had more Firsts to its name.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I think Cornwall's got the biggest acheivment railway-wise...
In 1801, Richard Trevithick built a steam locomotive for the roads, and one for the tramways in 1804. The first railway steam locomotive in the world. Beat that!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somerset and Dorset?  I thought you lived up north Joe!  
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First public railway, first coast-to-coast railway, first railway bridge, first printed railway ticket, first locomotive works, first multi-tube boiler, first mainline station to go bust before it was finished.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do It stands for Stcokton and Darlington Railway also First Loco to reach over 100mph and was proved... Wheres Noakesy?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

poliss wrote:
First public railway, first coast-to-coast railway, first railway bridge, first printed railway ticket, first locomotive works, first multi-tube boiler, first mainline station to go bust before it was finished.


But it wasn't all put together to produce the first modern railway was it?  

I love 'the first mainline station to go bust before it was finished'.  That's the real British way!  
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Others got firsts before either of us Tom. Cornishman, first steam railway loco, Canterbury and Whitstable, first passenger railway to be exclusively steam hauled.
Newcastle station was supposed to have a portico the whole width of the station, but George Hudsons, the Railway King, schemes came undone before the station was finished, so they just shoved a little portico on the front.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was rather disapointed with this book, there could - and should - have been a lot more included.

Merseyrail Electrics - The Inside Story by TB Maund is a good read for those interested in the Mersey Railway, LMS and so on.  Also by the same author is a book that dealw with the GWR/LNWR joint line to the now long gone Birkenhead Woodside station.  In fact, anything with TB Maund is good, well researched material.


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