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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:30 pm    Post subject: gas lit carriages Reply with quote

how are they filled and what gas is used. town or oil gas
http://wapedia.mobi/en/Quintinshill_rail_crash
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bit further on into the article it says:
The gas (oil-gas) was stored in reservoirs slung under the underframe. These reservoirs had just been charged and this, plus the lack of available water, kept the resulting fire burning for two days.
How they filled them and exactly what it is, I haven't a clue (my guess is that Pol is on the case!   )
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From my bookshelf, Red for Danger by L.T.C. Rolt.
"All the Great Central stock of the troop train was gas lit and just before leaving Larbert the gas cylinders had been fully charged to a pressure of from five to six atmosheres."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_lighting
Oil gas appeared in the field as a rival of coal gas. In 1815, John Taylor patented an apparatus for the decomposition of "oil"and other animal substances.

The impact of the railway on society in Britain By Jack Simmons, A. K. B. Evans, John Gough suggests to me that they used Pintch's compressed oil-gas system. http://tinyurl.com/mxtre5

THE MANUFACTURE OF PINTSCH GAS
http://www.catskillarchive.com/rrextra/sdgas.Html
Shows how it was made and the pressurising equipment used.

Although the accident inquiries usually blame people for not following safety procedures I suggest the fault lies in not making the systems 'distracted proof' (one accident was caused by a signallman who was distracted by the fact his baby son had just died) and 'idiot proof' (another accident was caused by a signal boy, you could hardly say man, who had a habit of leaning on the point levers as trains were passing over the points.  Of course, one day, the points moved and caused a derailment with many killed).
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

plenty to read thanks poliss.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Photo of the fire. http://danger-ahead.railfan.net/gallery/quintinshill.htm
From http://danger-ahead.railfan.net/index.html
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Told you he'd be on the case!  

(added bonus of more sites to go and look at   )
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tom looking in his crystal ball again.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom knows I like finding things on the interweb. I wonder if he knew that I've read one or two railway accident books too???
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'course I did!  

It must run in the family, what with my granddaughter being a witch.  (BTW, she failed last Saturday on the Lottery - I got all 6 numbers but, unfortunately, on 5 different lines!)
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that LTC Rolt the same as he of narrowboat 'Cressy' and saving the inland waterways fame?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, same chap. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._T._C._Rolt
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, busy bloke!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some models come with the gas tanks as part of the underframe fittings. I think the Hornby clerestory coaches do.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope they're empty.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See what Doug ment when he said hope those carriages did`nt have gas lamps on my train crash



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