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| Even older tom |
Have a good look before you buy..I saw this on Hatton's mailing list and thought, Yes! Must get one!http://www.ehattons.com/stockdetail.aspx?sid=25308&img=1 Then I had a closer look: I've NEVER seen a black surround on a Liverpool Corpy bus radiator. I've also never seen the destination board before the route number on the front. (Always number first, then destination - later ones had number on top and 2 destination boards underneath) It could be a memory lapse on my behalf but I won't be ordering one.. for now. |
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| poliss |
Found one with black radiator surround. Still looking for the destination board.
http://community.webshots.com/photo/fullsize/1070543752026748836KidgPK |
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| Even older tom |
Dangle the carrot and it works every time!  Cheers Pol.
That's a Regent lll with a Weyman body. Ledo's one is meant to be a full Regent lll with an AEC body and they all had the plain radiators (as in your photo). The model has the cross braced London type. I don't know why I'm picking holes, I expect it's just my age! 
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| RetroGoth |
I don't think that there are any Merseyside-based bus model has been done accurately, although they usually capture the basic look and feel of them.
Worst offender is the recent EFE Merseyside PTE back loader in green. The wrong green was used, they should have used the dark green that was on the Liverpool Corpy buses and not the not-quite-jonquil that they used. The typefaces are all wrong for the destinations - a common fault. The most common had a look of Gill Sans. No excuse for that when they got the E2 Atlantian nearly right. Wallasey models were okay but the Birkenhead ones didn't seem right. Just got the Manchester fleetline in Birkenhead and District colours and they used Gill Sans for the fleetnames - they used Copperplate on the real ones. All it would take is a little bit more research to make a better model, using readily available typefaces. There is no excuse for sloppyness like that! I have lots of Merseyside buses in my personal collection and will be featuring them in the shop. So far, the examples of locally produced code 3s are so awful so I'm going have to do them now! £30/35 for a badly-brush painted bus or tram with paper 'decals'. Terrible! Biggest balls-up so far is the Corgi Dublin bus which has UK "F" reg plates (might have even been the Merseybus 08xx series!) or the Britbus MPTE early Metrobuses with the completely wrong coloured interiors (they use the brown in other models, why not here?). All the printed detail on them were wrong and the poorly-fitting destination panel. I'll get my coat... |
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| Even older tom |
RetroGoth said: "No excuse for that when they got the E2 Atlantian nearly right."
Was that a Liverpool Corpy bus? I've always wanted an accurate(ish) Atlantean. Have you a link for me to buy one, by any chance? Cheers. |
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| RetroGoth |
The EFE version has the later type seating, with the periscope for upstairs. Route 82C if memory serves. Doesn't look bad though. Came out around ten years ago or so. I'll drop you a private message if I get hold of any, am seeing a diecast dealer today. Shouldn't be too expensive though, certainly less than new release models. |
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| Even older tom |
I remember seeing E2 but don't think I went on it (but if it ran on the 82C, I probably would have because that was the route I used to get home from school).
Cheers. |
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| poliss |
You were lucky Tom. All we had were rickety old Crossvilles. | ||
| RetroGoth |
We still have them. They have "First" on them. Funny how the cost of travelling on them costs considerabley more once you go past the Merseyside border and into Merseyside. Used to be the other way round. |
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| RetroGoth |
The model is on 82C to Speke via Church Street. That was when buses went past Central Station and not well out of the way. Adverts are for BOAC (nearside) and Jacobs (offside). I now have two of these in stock as well as an AEC Regent V (the wrong green version!) which is based on a former St Helens bus, although it doesn't have the St Helens bonnet. Also managed to pick up an MTL North Palatine II, amongst others. Stock has grown as a result of yesterday. It was strange as was used to the blue and cream buses from my side of the river only to get off the train and see these dark green ones form Liverpool. |
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| Even older tom |
A listing on Ebay to be careful of..
Being a bit of a smoke unit enthusiast (as most of you know!  )...
I've just seen this advertised as a 'Hornby" smoke unit. Bit of a problem here as this is the unit that needs a metal body (there's only 1 wire, so ground has to come from the body) and when was the last Hornby with a metal body? 1958? And it's 'Easy to fit'... yeah, right... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAP...p;ssPageName=ADME:B:WNARL:GB:1123 No doubt some poor s*d who doesn't know what they are buying will be £18.75 poorer for the experience. 
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| RetroGoth |
Re: Have a good look before you buy..
Have a look at a book called "An Album Of Merseyside Buses", it gives you the run down on these buses. When Wirral went to one-man operation, as did St Helens, the rear loaders went to Liverpool. Not all had the A or L prefix and not all had the cream (or as the experts said to me today banana) coloured window surrounds. Went to the transport museum and the guys were telling me about these. Can't remember who put the book together but it does have a MPTE Damlier Fleetline coming up from Woodside on the front cover. |
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| The train man |
The early Tri-ang ones were similar, wonder if they mean Tri-ang smoke units? | ||
| Even older tom |
A possibility TM, but this is a No21 and it's product description is: HO Scale Smoke unit for HO locos metal body slim chimney. I think he's just trying to shift them. 
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| mossdp |
The first Triang smoke fitted locos used Seuthe smoke units or very similar before they developed their own "Synchrosmoke" system. It looked like Hornby might have been going to reintroduce these in the Duchess they made in 1977, which has a circular hole to take it. The class 25 diesel also had a fitting for one, but it was surrounded by plastic so probably not a great idea. The later Hornby smoke units are of a different design again.
Damian M. |
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| Even older tom |
That's exactly where I fitted the smoke unit to the Duchess I bought off you Damian. It's a very easy conversion - if you allow clearance for the heat to dissipate. |
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| RetroGoth |
They even put a hole in the Class 25 for a Suethe smoke unit - the ones that they used before Synchrosmoke. |
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