Lima Westeren locos

Teleman · Lima Westeren locos

I have noticed that my Lima 'Western Enterprise' has the wrong number on

it has D1023 on when it should be D1000 , anybody else got one ? is this normal ? did it ever come out with the right number ?

so many questions and i can't find the answers

poliss

Just throw this up between tv adverts.
http://www.specialistauctions.com/auctiondetails.php?id=1053218

Teleman

Mine is boxed but noway is it anywhere near as good as that one , everbody says they are rare but this is the second one i have had , or is it that D1000 on it is rare ?

spelling edit ... secong ?? and thats with no beer

poliss

I can find lots of D1023 Western Enterprise, but none with the correct number. Must be an uncorrected factory error.

Teleman

Same here thats whats strange , Ive been offered £30 ~£40 for it on another forum and they keep on popping up all over the place

poliss

Seems to be very common. Probably a mistaken belief that it's rare because the numbers wrong. The same way people think the extremely common penny black stamp is rare.
Now, there was a chappie on the Big H that was looking for info on a BR Railfreight Class 47, R2013. There wasn't one on sale on Ebay and I could hardly find any info on it. That's more likely to be rare.

Teleman

I think i will keep it as this one is in good condition and runs well , Its the box thats poor (as well as me) but it might even turn into a 'Blue Pullman' saga and then i could get a lot more for it

Teleman

A short video of it as Ryans layout was down today

poliss

Any idea why it was painted in desert sand?

Teleman

Strange you should say that because i read it on Wiki , they said .........

Liveries
When the initial batch of Westerns was being built in 1961-2, British Rail was considering a new unified corporate colour scheme, but had not yet made a final decision on what it would be. As a result, D1000 was rolled out of Swindon Works in November 1961 painted in Desert Sand. Initially the numbers, borne on the left hand cab when viewed from the side, were painted on in white, but soon individual numbers and letters, looking like they were cast but apparently made of wood, were fitted. This was in turn replaced by the final design of cast nameplate and numberplate; metal with a black background. This handsome livery was later altered by the addition of a small yellow warning panel and black roof. After this D1001 was delivered in all over maroon livery, and D1002-D1004 in all over green. The remaining deliveries were all in maroon, with small yellow warning panels after D1006. Exceptions to this were the initial Crewe-built batch D1035-D1038 which were in green with red backgrounds to the nameplates, and D1015 which was outshopped in the experimental "golden ochre" livery with one of the small yellow warning panels having narrow whiskers at the top which extended round and onto the bodyside. Some locos retained their original livery while sporting the later full yellow ends.

After the adoption of Rail Blue in 1967, initial application of blue paint was of a more metallic shade, often referred to as "chromatic blue". D1030, D1043, D1047 and D1057 received this variant married to small yellow warning panels, but after this repaints were in the more usual shade. The last loco to be repainted into Rail Blue was D1046 which was outshopped from Swindon in May 1971. Rumours that a loco was experimentally painted in gloss black cannot now be substantiated.

poliss

Hmm, doesn't explain why they were experimenting with the sand colour. I was guessing that it had something to do with the Western Desert. Probably totally wrong.

K9-70

From the book,
British Rail Main Line Diesel Locomotives, IBSN 0-86093-318-0.

At the time of the introduction of the "Westerns" the WR were trying out different livery schemes.
The first locomotive, D1000 emerged painted in desert sand livery, while D1001 emerged painted in maroon. Numbers D1002-04/35 being painted in green. No. D1015 when released in January 1963 was painted in golden orche livery.

After a few years in their various guises the entire fleet was re-painted into maroon livery with small warning panels, this later giving way to standard blue with full yellow warning ends from late 1967.

I wonder why they didn't paint one in LNWR black ?

K9-70