Silver Jubilee

adamrules247 · Silver Jubilee

poliss

Great piece of film. I especially liked the part where he said, "in a plane, itself travelling at over 100 miles an hour".

Even older tom

It was only a baby train though. I counted only 7 coaches. LNER wimp.

(ducks behind sofa again, waiting for the flack from people like Pol, Noaksey and Joe)

Seriously, though, good clip Adam, thanks.

poliss

The weight of all the rich peoples wallets meant that they had to reduce the train length for the demonstration.

Joe

Nice one Pol, Really nice clip I Think I've seen it before though...

Joe

Ah Yes! My Story of Steam DVD Worth Buying btw, Its superb.

adamrules247

Glad you all like it!!! And the LNER wasn't a baby railway!!

Noakesy123

The LNER Silver Jubilee was limited to 7 coaches as it was a pioneering service, they wanted to test it to its full. The Coronation was the much more developed service, with 9 cars incl. a streamlined beavertail Obseevation car.

The West Riding Limited, like the COronationwas a longer train, can't remeber how many coaches though. There was also The East Anglian, but that really a High Speed Train, it was a Express service from London to East Anglia (can't remember final destination) hauled by one of two B17s that had A4 style streamlining added to create a prestigous service.

Camborner

Pah! Nothing compared to the Cornish Riverea! Pity the Kings didn't go into Cornwall (stupid wieght restriction) but never mind, back to the point...
Makes a very unusual sight compared to the blue/green A4's I've seen on the mainline-how I so wanted to be stood where the camera was at 0:50!

Noakesy123

That is a proper A4 Declan! Not those Stupid BR coloured ones without Valances, you want a nice one, with valances, in either Silver (as in vid), Garter Blue or Apple Green.

Camborner

Nah, I prefer no valences and lovely brunswick green...

Joe

... Camborner R.I.P

I see your point but I prefer them The same as Noakesy Apple green being the Favourite.

Camborner

They're so much more interesting with no valences, they hide the intresting moving bits, as if they're something to be ashamed of.

Noakesy123

It's not about Hiding them, the A4s were built for speed and streamlining, it is almost as if BR were trying to cover that up, with their stupid BR cowpat green, and removing part of the beauty, the valances.

Joe

I see the valances as streamlining aswell, I read in a book that Mallard was striped of Hers for the War effort. They Look alright without them seeing the pistons etc Moving but seeing them with Valances steamoig down the mainline in all their beauty in Videos is 2nd to None. I want to see one In real Life

(Steaming)

Teleman

They do look a bit odd when they come towards you

but great to see in action

adamrules247

Shame the original 4,(Silver Link, Silver Fox, Quicksilver and Silver King) were destroyed!

Even older tom

I've always been under the impression that streamlining (or Air Smoothing) wasn't actually worth the effort. It was a pain to remove for servicing and it didn't return much in the way of extra efficiency (that's why LMS gave up with the streamlined Princess class).

I could be wrong and if I am, I'm sure someone will put me right!

Joe

In the Original Silver livery aswell. I Have loads of Info on A4's But I doubt I can beat Noakesy.

Joe

Streamlining was heavy But The Buggatti nose of the A4's Proved alot more efficient than the A3's So It stayed... Also it cost it a Fortune.

Joe

I could be wrong...

Teleman

At last i found a video i took of Bittern

Joe

Really good video contrasting Steam Loco: superb peice of machinary and a graphitied station. Nice

poliss

Streamling is fine for fast expresses, but on the B17s although it saved some coal wasn't really worth the effort. Or so the historians like OS Nock said, but I quite liked them.

Teleman

Found this one ,I think its better

Noakesy123

VEry Nice vids Peter, but they do look incomplete without valances.

Joe, all the A4s were stripped of their Valances in the War, to make them easier to service, I should think they are all parts of Spitfires and Lancasters now! Or were at least!

The ones on Mallard have been made since preservation.

Camborner

Lovely vids!
The valence mkae it look like they're hiding bits. It's as if they need to put on a sign on the valences 'Work in Progress-Please Return Later'.

Joe

A bit off subject But I wonder what a pannier would look like with no Tanks?

Anyway Noakesy thanks for the Info. Just a quick question Noakesy, Were any Made and put into service without the valances? I Know the Original Four Didnt and a few after that didnt but it only ever talks about Mallard, Quicksilver, Silver king, Silver Fox, Silverlink and the preserved ones in my books so I dont know alot about the class as individuals very much. Thanks.

Teleman

found this on thr LNER web site

Wartime & British Rail
Although the Second World War did not start until 3rd September 1939, the last streamlined services ran on 31st August 1939 due to the enactment of the Emergency Powers (Defence) Act 1939. In these early days, services were seriously cut back, and the evacuation trains had started. Over the next few months, many services returned but timetables were generally much slower than before the war. Freight took priority, and both blackout conditions and lack of maintenance took their toll on Britain's railways.

Initially the Kings Cross A4s were put into storage, although the other A4s were kept in service. Eventually all of the Kings Cross A4s returned to service. Generally, the A4s were called upon to pull loads much heavier than originally intended. They did this well, although reduced maintenance produced some problems especially with the conjugated gear. To aid maintenance, Thompson removed the side skirts from the A4s. Because the A4s were experiencing much increased loads, they occasionally had problems starting off. To help with this Thompson had the valve gear modified so that a maximum of 75% cut-off was possible. Only 6 locomotives were converted during wartime, with the remainder being converted between 1946 and 1957.

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Camborner

Joe

Were's That!? I take it that She was being overhauled or Painted or something?

Camborner

That's at Didcot, the engine was being tested.

Joe

Thanks Camborner everyone has something for everyone else!

Noakesy123

Nice bit of info there PEter.

The loco destroyed 'Sir Ralph Wedgewood' was previously named Gadwall, after it was destroyed a fellow 'top Shedder' 4466 'Herring Gull' was renamed Sir Ralph Wedgewood.