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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Revised track plan with loads of points deleted. Had to or there would be no room for buildings. The straight line to the turntable should be a curve, but I don't know how to draw one with PSP.  




Is your crossover four sets of points or a crossover in middle???
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Is your crossover four sets of points or a crossover in middle???[/quote]

Hope  its  one of  the crossovers  from Kato   Dave a really  nice piece of engineering with  built in point  motors  
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could do with something like that I was trying to figure it out with 4 sets of points and a crossover you need a lot of area in 00 gauge but in N you wont need so much, but also trying to figure out points so near to curve.   No doubt when Pol has finished it we will be able to see. bom          
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi  Dave,      

Had  a  look  at  Kato's list  but  no   four way  crossing  is  listed  in  HO    strange i  would  have thought there would be  one    

For a point near  a curve  would a curved  point  not  fit in  better  
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[quote="upnick"]Hi  Dave,      

Had  a  look  at  Kato's list  but  no   four way  crossing  is  listed  in  HO    strange i  would  have thought there would be  one    

For a point near  a curve  would a curved  point  not  fit in  better   [/quote

I have curved points but they seem to be the ones that give most trouble, I have standard points which do work (abait a lot of pain) but now I try to use Express points as they seem less troublesome, but they are all getting very expensive, but my point was how do you get a crossover between 1 st and 2nd track and keep the two tracks relativly close??? all I could think was 4 sets of points.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi  Dave,    

A pair of streamline points  facing  each  other   should give as  close  as  you  can  get spacing  for the  tracks ......  not sure how  they  compare  to   code  83 i  use here. 


Here  on my  HO  two  points  meet  the overall   width   sleeper edge  to   sleeper edge is   3 inches wide   as can  be seen on  the  ruler   laid  across   just   over   7 &  half inches  for  all four  tracks   furthest  from  the cam.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Poor drawing , but this is what I meant Nick, to put a crossover in 00 would nead 4 points plus cross so would need a lot of space?    
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shinohara do a scissors crossover in HO scale. Length 19.3 inches. http://www.scalelink.co.uk/acatal...ack___Pointwork__HO__Code_83.html

Mine is the Kato scissors crossover Nick. Only uses the 2 wires to control everything. No cutting holes in the baseboard, no DPDT switches and no point motors to buy.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heres one in O gauge  

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long did it take you to wire that Pete?
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Still have bad dreams about the wiring on it   but its still working okay . Must have taken about 16 or so hours as it was brought second hand with no wiring diagram and had never been used .Being a Marcway point they are not cheep . They do a 00 one too   its only £71   the o gauge one is a lot more than that .

Edit for ..... Three people made a special trip to the exhibition to see it working  
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The Shinnora is the one but £45 .20 needs some consideration :But that picture Pete put on for the 0 gauge is what I was thinking of, but price wise shall just have to keep thinking  
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The Shinnora is the one but £45 .20 needs some consideration :But that picture Pete put on for the 0  gauge is what I was thinking of, but price wise shall just have to keep thinking  

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[quote="poliss]

Mine is the Kato scissors crossover Nick. Only uses the 2 wires to control everything. No cutting holes in the baseboard, no DPDT switches and no point motors to buy. [/quote]

Hi  Poliss,  

Thought  so    
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The  shinohara Poliss  suggested is a good option  Dave but  the  ties are different spacing   if  it bothers you on  code 83 track.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Puts on rivit counts hat  

Peco and Hornby track is spaced to HO/Euro spacing at 4 mill between each sleeper , the space shoud be 6 mill for UK track so sleeper spacing shoud not be too bad . Its the code 83 rail that would cause more of a problem
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Dont have a   rivet  counters  hat   Pete            only use   code 83  ....   not  sure how it compares to track   Dave already  has down    
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dont have a   rivet  counters  hat   Pete            only use   code 83  ....   not  sure how it compares to track   Dave already  has down    


I just have standard Hornby Flexable track which I find that even useing Peco points with Hornby can cause a problem there is the tiniest differance in Height which can sometimes cause a derail.
but with the price of thoses crossovers I think I shall stick to what arrangement I have, they do look good though
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way is any one experiancing the pages seem to be bigger on here they go off screen or is it just my computer
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's happening to me too Dave. Does on quite a few topics, especially when pics are posted even if they fit my screen easily.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's happening to me too Dave. Does on quite a few topics, especially when pics are posted even if they fit my screen easily.

Glad I arn`t the only one, I have to slide left and right to see all message if it  fills a line (if you know what I mean)  
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

its stopped it now.... it was doing that to me as well..... try clearing the cookies or something, it normally clears the problem.....
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carn`t be that Bruce my a v g does that every day
no problem with normal e mails or anything else its just the forum pages
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Carn`t be that Bruce my a v g does that every day
no problem with normal e mails or anything else its just the forum pages


Hi  Dave,    

One reason can be   pictures in  posts are  uploaded  in  a  large  format   leading  to  the text  running  off the page  ...  must  admit  in earlier  posts on my  layouts  i  am  guilty  of  uploading pictures without resizing  them.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See what you mean Nick, if I go back to previous page on this topic it`s o k but this page is out of space and it was me who put the picture at the top of the page, should have reduced it!! O well we live and learn every day.
When I looked again it was me who posted quote from Pol at top so got me even more baffeld, but it something to do with pictures.    
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was an *]* missing from the image url on Dave's drawing. That's what stretched the page. Fixed now.
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This gets wieder its o k now.!!!!!!!
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An incomplete URL without the opening or closing tags won't work properly and will show as text and stretch the page. These are examples of tags, [].
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There was an *]* missing from the image url on Dave's drawing. That's what stretched the page. Fixed now.


Cheers Doug bet you had a little smile to yourself waiting for us to discover what I had done wrong      
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I thought it was a pic that was too large at first. It was only when going into 'edit mode' that I saw the end tag was missing.
I used to write the HTML myself using HTML4 for my website. It was simple in the old days, but with the new fangled system, style sheets, active HTML or whatever it's called, it's too hard.



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